The whole “heterophobia/cisphobia doesn’t exist!” thing is a controversial topic, but in the end if you think you’re allowed to insult someone because of something they cannot change, you’re in the exact same state of…
Also, I’m pretty sure cis-gendered heterosexual men are not actually targets of bullying. I know I certainly have never been constantly harassed and demeaned by anyone for being a straight cis-male.
Plus, as was already said, the result of “heterophobia” and “cisphobia” is some hurt feelings. Meanwhile, LGBTQ folks are dying.
Oh, and how about the fact that the “gay panic” defense, wherein a straight person murders a gay man or trans individual and claims they did it for fear of being raped, still gets used and even works—but LGBTQ individuals who successfully defend themselves from hate crimes END UP IN PRISON.
My hurt feelings because someone called me a “breeder” are not even remotely on the same level.
You know I was just going to leave it at “you’re stupid but you get points for trying” but I’m honestly curious as to how all of you insist i say heterophobia/cisphobia are real, i mean…i never said that?
Also 100 points for ignoring cisgendered heterosexual men who are bullied just so that you can pass as a hero in front of the lil itty bitty feminists. You’re fucking disgusting congrats I hope you’re fucking proud of yourself right now. Just because something has never happened to you doesn’t mean you have the right to claim it is the same way for all of those like you. Get your head out of your ass and start realising that people are fucking human (surprise!) and that humans don’t like getting pissed on for no reason.
And oh wow, really? Seriously? My post literally means “cisphobia/heterophobia are diffucult topics but bullying someone for being who they are is wrong nonetheless" and you come up to me telling me LGBT+ peeps are dying but straight heterosexual men aren’t? With all the shit going on in Ferguson did you seriously just say that.
You’re blind to things that go against your arguments. People like you make me sick.
Did I say that heterosexual men aren’t dying? Did I suggest that we are immortal? No, I pointed out that our deaths are rarely ever just because we are straight and male. We aren’t targeted by an institutional bias that says our sexuality is wrong—that does not mean that we cannot be targeted for other reasons.
Did I say I was never bullied? No, I said I was never harassed for my sexuality. I have most certainly been harassed for being overweight or for being an atheist, but I have never been targeted for being a straight male.
You’re right in that that is based on my own experience, but I have yet to see anyone come up with compelling evidence that they were bullied for being a cis-gendered heterosexual, but there sure is a ton of evidence for LGBTQ individuals being bullied for being who they are.
What happened in Ferguson is a result of racism. Mike Brown was killed because of the color of his skin, not because of his sexuality. So yeah, it’s not at all gross of you to co-opt that tragedy to make an asinine point about how all hate is equally bad.
And yes, I totally called you on your tone-policing nonsense solely because I was trying to impress feminists. You got me. I, as a straight white male, could not possibly think your point was awful unless I was trying to make feminists like me or something.
"tone-policing" is just a buzzword people use to try to defend against people calling out their own bigotry.
Quit making excuses for bigotry. It doesnt matter how much others have it worse, NOTHING excuses bigotry.
"Man I am so sick of all these lazy black fuckers in my neighborhood"
"Whoa dude, dont say shit like that, thats fucking racist."
"HEY, I’M JUST VENTING, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE MAD, STOP TONE POLICING ME."
Oh, wow, false equivalency! That’s a totally new argument!
A white man who says black people are lazy is a racist. Pure and simple. He is speaking from a place of privilege and expressing hatred of a less-privileged group based on incorrect stereotypes.
A LGBTQ individual who expresses a distrust of straight people is doing so out of a sense of self-preservation because they know that there’s a good chance that any straight person they meet may want them dead or believe that they are not deserving of human dignity. They usually know this from a lifetime of experiencing just that. That is not the same as hating all straight people or wanting them dead just because you believe yourself to be superior to them.
Tone policing is telling a marginalized group that they are wrong to react to their own oppression with anger or resentment. If you honestly can’t see the difference between someone being angry that their rights and dignity are considered less important than someone else’s, and someone who’s angry that someone different from them exists: you have a serious problem.
Generalizing and hate towards an entire race or gender because of your personal experience. It’s not false equivalency, it’s perfectly fitting.
Fun fact, I never said the person in my hypothetical example was white or a man. Nice assumption there.
YOUR EXPERIENCE NEVER EXCUSES BIGOTRY. EVER.
"they have a right to be angry"
They don’t have the right to let their anger turn into bigotry.
You keep acting like people only fairly express their anger in a mean “tone” and don’t outright spout racism/sexism/bigotry towards whites/cis/men.
Quit excusing it, it’s not ok no matter who it comes from.
You are basically saying racism/sexism/bigotry/generalizing is ok as long as it happens to specific people.
People like you are the reason people hate SJWs.